Charles Nurthen-5 [Parents] was born on 24 Apr 1853 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England. He was christened on 29 Jan 1862 in St Peters, St Pancras, Middlesex, England. He died in 1895 in Edmonton, London, England. He married Eleanor [Ellen] Emma Galton-6 on 13 Apr 1873 in St Mark's Parish Church, Old Street, Middlesex, England.
Other marriages:Barbet, Emma
BIRTH Civil Birth Certificate no.481 subdistrict of Arnwell, Clerkwell.Parents listed here. at 9 Noble Street, Clerkenwell.
BAPTISM from film 579644- parish records of St Peter's. Birth date also given so it is the right person. Now at Cromer Road. (Also in IGI).
MARRIAGE (1837) from civil certificate (copy from Sandra Fordham) aged 20, bachelor, porter. Residence given as S. Mark, Old Street. One of the witnesses was Elizabeth Nurthen.
CENSUS 1881 from LDS CD 23 Barclay St,St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England. Source:FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0204 Folio 35 Page 12. aged 27. Occupation Mail Porter GPO. Listed in July at birth of Ada Lousie as Post Office Porter.
NOTE in 1879 he gave his occupation as Mail Guard on the birth certificate of his daughter Elisabeth Rose.
REMARRIAGE (1889) from civil certificate, a 35 year old widow, a postman of 6 Clifton Place.
CENSUS 1891 RG12-242, enumerator 4, folio 67, page 17, schedule 154. 6 Clifton Place, Shoreditch, Moorfields, Hoxton. aged 37, GPO mail porter.
DEATH based only on St Catherin's index. aged 41. This may be not him but we know from the marriage certificate of Francis in 1911 that he is listed as a deceased postman. Listed as deceased sorter in 1898.
Eleanor [Ellen] Emma Galton-6 [Parents] was born on 22 Aug 1853 in Hoxton New Town, Middlesex, England. She was christened on 14 Sep 1853 in St John the Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England. She died on 9 Aug 1887 in Shoreditch, London, England. She married Charles Nurthen-5 on 13 Apr 1873 in St Mark's Parish Church, Old Street, Middlesex, England.
BIRTH from civil certificate (copy from Sandra Fordham). Residence 33 Moneyers Street. Named old as Ellen.
BAPTISM from IGI film 590837.
MARRIAGEfrom civil certificate (copy from Sandra Fordham) age 20, spinster, no occupation, residence given as parish of marriage. He maiden name is clearly Elliner Emma Galton here. One of the witnesses was George Galton
CENSUS 1881 age 27. Named here as Ellen, birthplace given as Islington. Listed at birth of Ada Lousie in July 1881 as Ellen Emma.
DEATH from civil certificate, aged 32, was living at 115 Langbourne Buildings, Shoreditch. Cause of death - acute rheumaticm leading to pericaditis (heart disease).
NOTE the name Eleanor is from her daughter, Elizabeth's, birth certificate (also on death certificate).
They had the following children:
F i Elleanor Elizabeth Nurthen-16 M ii Charles Nurthen-15 F iii Elizabeth Rose Nurthen-1 F iv Ada Louise Nurthen-18 was born on 24 Jul 1881 in Somers Town, Middlesex, England. She died on 16 Jun 1912 in St Luke's, London, England.
BIRTH from civil certificate (a copy sent by Sandra Fordham), born at 23 Barclay Street.
CENSUS 1891RG12-242, enumerator 4, folio 67, page 17, schedule 154. 6 Clifton Place, Shoreditch, Moorfields, Hoxton. aged 9, a scholar, birthplace listed as Clerkenwell, named Ada.
DEATH - Sandra has the death certificate, aged 30. The informant was her sister R. Lamford of 197 Erroll Street, St Lukes.
NOTE Dorothy Toussirot remembers visiting an "Aunt Ada" in the Dunstable area during the war (1939-45). She remembers a cousin Sylvia from this visit. However this was obviously not this Ada.M v Francis Nurthen-22 M vi George Nurthen-20
James Clift-365 was born before 1802 in , , England. He died before 1853. He married Jane or Ann-116.
KNOWN from shipping record (which lists him as deceased) and death of daughter.
Jane or Ann-116 was born before 1802 in , , England. She married James Clift-365.
KNOWN from shipping record (where she is named Jane) and death (where she is named Ann) of daughter.
NOTE shipping record in 1853 states she was then living in St Helens, Worcestershire.
They had the following children:
F i Jane Clift-112
Charles Nurthen-10 [Parents] was born about 1831 in Shoreditch, Middlesex, England. He died in 1904 in West Ham, London, England. He married Eliza Hunt-11 on 31 May 1852 in St Leonard, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England.
MARRIAGE Civil certificate no. 328 the parish church of St Leonard, Shoreditch. A shoemaker, living in King Street. Also noted in IGI. Film 0405110.
NOTE in 1773 given as shoe maker at marriage of Charles.
CENSUS 1881, from index aged 50 occupation shoe maker, born Shoreditch. Dwelling:Luke St 49 Granville Bgs, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex, England. Source:FHL Film 1341083 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0387 Folio 95 Page 41. Surname given as Nurthers here,
CENSUS 1901 (per favour of Janet White, email sept 2002). age 79, born St Pancras, living St Peters, a boot and shoe maker. Sandra says he was living as a boarder.
DEATH based only on St Catherin's index. aged 73.
Eliza Hunt-11 was born on 13 May 1831 in Lambeth, Surrey, England. She was christened on 20 Nov 1831 in St Mary, Newington, Surrey, England. She married Charles Nurthen-10 on 31 May 1852 in St Leonard, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England.
BIRTH and BAPTISM from New Family Search entry.
MARRIAGE from civil certificate no.328 of the parish church St Leonard, Shoreditch. A Brush drawer, of Hd Street Road.
CENSUS 1881, from index aged 50 occupation brush drawer, born Lambeth, Surrey. Dwelling:Luke St 49 Granville Bgs, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex, England. Source:FHL Film 1341083 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0387 Folio 95 Page 41.
They had the following children:
M i Charles Nurthen-5 M ii James Nurthen-12 was born on 13 Aug 1854 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England. He was christened on 29 Jan 1862 in St Peters, St Pancras, Middlesex, England.
BIRTH Sandra Fordham says his birth was at 9 Noble Street, Clerkenwell.
BAPTISMAL record from St Peter's at St Pancras - film 579644. Baptised same day as his brother. His birth date is also given here. (also in IGI)M iii William Nurthen-33 was born on 20 May 1856 in St Pancras, Middlesex, England. He died on 20 May 1856 in St Pancras, Middlesex, England.
BIRTH from civil certificate (St Catherine's index 2nd qu 1856).
NOTE Sandra Fordham says he died at 8 Dutton Street St Pancras.
Ernest Nurthen-111 [Parents] was born in 1876 in Strand, London, England. He died on 6 Oct 1952 in Bethnal Green, London, England. He married Edith Louisa Coles-216 on 16 Dec 1897 in Registry Office, Strand, London, England. He was related to his parents by adoption.
NOTE IGI but not stated if patron submission or extraction, this gives 1875, but Sandra Fordham says he was born in 1876 as Ernest Smith but was adopted by Frederick Richard Nurther with rumours that he was the result of an affair. His staus as adopted son was listed in his father's will..
NOTE the London Post Office Directory (Streets and Commercial 1898, page 1332) lists an Ernest Nurthen, Hairdresser at 230 City Road EC. This is him according to Sandra Fordham..
CENSUS 1901 (per favour of Janet White, email sept 2002). age 23, born Strand,London, living St Pancras, a billiard marker.
NOTE SandraFordham has his marriage and death certificate. At his death he was a professional illusionist. She found him in the 1881 census as Ernest Smith. He married Edith Louisa Coles and they had a daughter whose name wasDaisy Coles. Sheila has the marriage certificate.
DEATH from Sandra Fordham, he died in Bethnal Green Hospital. He had been a professional illusionist. Address 119 or 219 Roman Road Bethnal Green. informant was his widow. Sheile has the certificate.
Edith Louisa Coles-216 was born about 1875 in Stratford Hill, Middlesex, England. She married Ernest Nurthen-111 on 16 Dec 1897 in Registry Office, Strand, London, England.
BIRTH based on assumption that I have the right 1901 centry for her.
NAME from Sandra Fordham. She has the marriage certificate.
CENSUS 1901 (per favour of Janet White, email sept 2002). age 25, born Stratford Hill, Middlesex, living St Pancras.
They had the following children:
William Nurthen-9 [Parents] was born on 20 Jun 1849 in Bath, Somerset, England. He died on 17 May 1897 in Southwark, London, England. He married Elizabeth Mary Hersey-17 on 29 May 1869 in St Pancras, Middlesex, England.
BIRTH from civil certificate (via Michael Nurthen) at 15 Poultney St.,Bathwick. St Catherine's reference Bath XI 221, in quarter 3 of 1849.
CENSUS 1851, at Bathwick, Somerset, enumerator 2, page 9, house schedule no.40. age 1.
MARRIAGE from civil certificate no. 208 (thanks to Michael Nurthen). A bachelor of full age, a printer of St Pancras.
CENSUS 1881 on CD at 2 Sansom Street, Waterloo Street, Camberwell, Surrey, England. Source:FHL Film 1341156, PRO Ref RG11, Piece 0671, Folio 59, Page 54. Surname transcribed as Murthen. Age 31, a printer's compositor.
NOTE. from birth certificate for daughter Maud Mary he was a compositor, and lived in Sansom Street Camberwell in Dec 1881. Miachael Nurthen says he was a printer, which matches. The boys' birth certificates list him as a print compositor.
NOTE he is mentioned in his brother, Frederick Richard's will.
NOTE Margaret Nurthen of France lists at least six children before Maud Mary, though she is not in strict order so some of them could also come later.
DEATH from Michael Nurthen who says it was at 5 Sturgess Road, Southwark.
Elizabeth Mary Hersey-17 [Parents] was born about 1850 in St Pancras, Middlesex, England. She died in 1904. She married William Nurthen-9 on 29 May 1869 in St Pancras, Middlesex, England.
KNOWN first from civil certificate of birth of her daughter, Maud Mary.
MARRIAGE from civil certificate no. 208 (thanks to Michael Nurthen). a spinster of full age, of St Pancras..
CENSUS 1881 on CD at 2 Sansom Street, Waterloo Street, Camberwell, Surrey, England. Source:FHL Film 1341156, PRO Ref RG11, Piece 0671, Folio 59, Page 54. Surname transcribed as Murthen. Age 30, a gold embroiderer.
CENSUS 1901 Christ Church, Southwark, folio 7 page 5, 26 Ponsonby Buildings. Aged 50. Occupation "housekeeper - not domestic", working on own behalf not as employee, a widow..
NOTE Margaret Nurthen of France lists at least six children before Maud Mary, though she is not in strict order so some of them could also come later.
DEATH from Michael Nurthen who says it is registered in 1st qu 1904.
They had the following children:
M i Arthur Edwin Nurthen-70 M ii William Henry Nurthen-373 F iii Louise Minnie Victoria Nurthen-80 F iv Maud Mary Nurthen-27 was born on 2 Dec 1881 in Camberwell, Surrey, England. She died in 1883.
BIRTH from civil certificate, born at 2 Sansom Street.
DEATH from family group sheet of Michael Nurthen.M v Herbert Walter Joseph Nurthen-34 M vi Alfred John Nurthen-490 M vii Frank Nicholas Richard Nurthen-491 M viii George Nurthen-501 was born in , , England.
DATA from family group sheet of Michael Nurthen. He is unsure of the first name.F ix Annie E Nurthen-581 was born on 18 Sep 1892 in Camberwell, London, England. She died on 15 Aug 1978.
BIRTH date from Michael Nurthen (email Sep 2002) who says he has this from people who knew her in USA. She went there as an adult. Known here as Anna. See St Catherine's Index 4th qu, 1892 Camberwell 1d 924 (number hard to read).
CENSUS 1901 Christ Church, Southwark, folio 7 page 5, 26 Ponsonby Buildings. Aged 8. Listed here as Annie E.
DEATH from a descendancy chart via Rich Nurthen from Michael Nurthen (email Aug 2003).
William Charles Nurthen-57 [Parents] was born on 31 May 1869 in Bermondsey, Surrey, England. He married Alice Emily Heudeborck-268.
BIRTH date and middle name from John Nurthen of Hitchin (2002).
CENSUS 1871, at 56 Ewhurst Street, Newington, Lambeth. Enumeration district 21, page 60. Age 1, birthplace given as Walworth, Surrey.
CENSUS 1881 from LDS CD 6 Villa Sttreet, Newington, Surrey, England. Source:FHL Film 1341124 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0545 Folio 100 Page 33. aged 11, a scholar.
CENSUS 1901 at Shoreditch (per favour Janet White, email Sept 2002). Aged 31, a carman.
Alice Emily Heudeborck-268 was born about 1870 in Hoxton, London, England. She married William Charles Nurthen-57.
NAME from John Nurthen of Hitchin (2002).
CENSUS 1901 at Shoreditch (per favour Janet White, email Sept 2002). Aged 30, an umbrella maker.
They had the following children:
F i Henrietta Nurthen-122 was born about 1885 in St Lukes, London, England.
DETAIL from John Nurthen of Hitchin (2002).
CENSUS 1901 at Shoreditch (per favour Janet White, email Sept 2002). Aged 15, an umbrella maker. Named Hetty.M ii William Nurthen-434 was born about 1891 in St Lukes, London, England.
DETAIL from John Nurthen of Hitchin (2002).
CENSUS 1901 at Shoreditch (per favour Janet White, email Sept 2002). Aged 9.M iii Henry Arthur Nurthen-267 M iv James Nurthen-584 was born about 1899 in Hoxton, London, England.
CENSUS 1901 at Shoreditch (per favour Janet White, email Sept 2002). Aged 1.F v Lillian Nurthen-121 was born about Apr 1900 in Hoxton, London, England.
DETAIL from John Nurthen of Hitchin (2002).
CENSUS 1901 at Shoreditch (per favour Janet White, email Sept 2002). Aged 11 months, named Lily.F vi Living
Peter James Nurthen-14 [Parents] was christened on 28 Feb 1820 in Old Church, St Pancras, Middlesex, England. He married Emma-29.
BAPTISM from IGI record. (C047931) IGI gives date as 30 Feb!
NOTE from IGI record of baptism of Robert Nurthen 22 May 1855, he married Emma.
Emma-29.Emma married Peter James Nurthen-14.
INFORMATION from Sandra Fordham.
NOTE tghere is a death record at Southwark in 1917 for an Emma aged 87 which could be here, but it would make her 10 years younger than her husband.
They had the following children:
William Hersey-36 was born before 1830 in , , England.
KNOWN from marriage of his daughter. He was a clerk at the GPO.
He had the following children:
F i Elizabeth Mary Hersey-17
Francis Nurthen-22 [Parents] was born on 17 Sep 1884 in Somerstown, London, England. He died in Apr 1962. He married Alice Emily Ince-19 on 10 Sep 1911 in St Peter's Chapel, Holborn, London, England.
Other marriages:Bartlett, Minnie Clara
INFORMATION first from Sandra Fordham of Billericay in Essex, then from her cousin Doreen Estall. This is her grand-father, he had three daughters, the middle one was her mother. Presumably his wife died when the third daughter was born. Worked at Whitbread Brewery (in or near Duffering street) as a woung man. She gives the birth place as 23 Barclay Street.
CENSUS 1891 RG12-242, enumerator 4, folio 67, page 17, schedule 154. 6 Clifton Place, Shoreditch, Moorfields, Hoxton. aged 7, a scholar, named as Frank, birthplace given as Clerkenwell.
CENSUS 1901 (as reported by Sandra Fordham Sep 2002), at 109 Spencer Rd, Stoke Newington (St Matthews parish, Hornsey) London. Age 18, birthplace given as Euston .occupation listed as "Diken Arapias Porter".
MARRIAGE from civil certificate (a copy sent by Sandra Fordham), He was 27, a batchelor employed as a marman, living at 28 CRoss Street, Hatton Garden.
NOTE Doreen says that when his wife died, he had just returned from the war in France, and moved with his three girls with his sister Eleanor Elizabeth. He lived with that family until he remarried in about 1958. He was 75 years old then.
NOTE see Ourtew for more information.
Alice Emily Ince-19 was born on 26 Apr 1884 in Catshill, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire. She died in 1918. She married Francis Nurthen-22 on 10 Sep 1911 in St Peter's Chapel, Holborn, London, England.
INFORMATION from Sandra Fordham of Billericay in Essex. This was her grandmother, she was 34 when she died. Sandra's mother was 1 when she died. Doreen confirmed the year. The family think she may have had Spanish or Italian blood, but no proof.
NOTE I had the birthplace as Calshall, but Janet (email June 2003) says it should be Catshill.
MARRIAGE from civil certificate (a copy sent by Sandra Fordham), she was aged 27, a spinster of no occupation. Residence 16 Cras...(?) Buildings, Bants (?) Markets(?). Listed here only as Alice.
Albert Green-586 was born in , , England. He died in , , Australia. He married Mary Alice Waring-585.
NOTE details from grand-daughter Lyn Renzi (email Apr 2005). They came to Australia in 1920.
Mary Alice Waring-585 was born in , , England. She died in , , Australia. She married Albert Green-586.
NOTE details from grand-daughter Lyn Renzi (email Apr 2005). They came to Australia in 1920.